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- You mean, welcome to the real Virginia, where people make mistakes, apologize for them, and we all move on?
As opposed to the Virginia of the Webb supporters where they make up charges of racism because its the only way anybody will vote for their candiate?
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- Wow. I didn't know Webb supporters had control of the world's MSM!!
Allen has only himself to blame - though props to ya for trying to divert attention away from his (predictably) nasty ways.
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- Well, at least my efforts gain recognition from the left! :)
Still, this is more of a political discourse thing than an Allen-Webb item.
Apologies should be accepted. Penance is something different (as a Catholic, you gotta get that in), but an apology offered sincerely is something a gentleman should accept.
I dunno... maybe I'm the last of a dying breed of Virginian...
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- I accept Allen's apology. I think it was very sincere - and a part of me feels bad for him. The steady climb that was his political career is now over. He's a Senator...at best.
But in campaigns, you don't move on. We judge people by their character and the way they treat others. And this is a fantastic issue for this campaign...which is ongoing. Why drop it?
We can accept Allen's apology and forgive him, but that doesn't mean we're sworn to silence about his actions, does it?
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- Is any of this surprising? They can't run on their ideas, they only try to run on scandals and not ideas. They can't win on ideas.
Just look at PA where Santorum is gaining ground while Casey does nothing, excepting being "not bush"
As long as the Dems continue to run on "we're not them" they won't win national elections, or many local general ones.
VA Leftist - if you accept an apology and offer forgivenss, then why bringing up the issue over and over and over again shows neither acceptance or forgivness.
When you forgive someone, you acknowledge that they did wrong, but it was a mistake on their part. Harping on peoples acknowledged mistakes brings the political discourse to low sub-human levels which alienate hard working people.
I'm sure their are enough things you disagree with Allen on intelectually. If you believe in your ideas, lets agrue those and raise the level of political disagreement to rational human agruements.
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- So...people can make racially insensitive statements and we can only bash them for 1 week them we must move on?
That's very convenient...for the racists!
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- VC,
We judge people by their character and the way they treat others. And this is a fantastic issue for this campaign...which is ongoing. Why drop it?
Is it an issue? It was, up until the very moment Allen (or Webb) apologized.
We can accept Allen's apology and forgive him, but that doesn't mean we're sworn to silence about his actions, does it?
That's part of forgiveness, Paul...
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- No it's not!
- comment Shaun Kenney
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- Yes it is! How could anyone live without being forgiven!
Part of the Christian ethic, isn't it?
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As opposed to the Virginia of the Webb supporters where they make up charges of racism because its the only way anybody will vote for their candiate?
Allen has only himself to blame - though props to ya for trying to divert attention away from his (predictably) nasty ways.
Still, this is more of a political discourse thing than an Allen-Webb item.
Apologies should be accepted. Penance is something different (as a Catholic, you gotta get that in), but an apology offered sincerely is something a gentleman should accept.
I dunno... maybe I'm the last of a dying breed of Virginian...
But in campaigns, you don't move on. We judge people by their character and the way they treat others. And this is a fantastic issue for this campaign...which is ongoing. Why drop it?
We can accept Allen's apology and forgive him, but that doesn't mean we're sworn to silence about his actions, does it?
Just look at PA where Santorum is gaining ground while Casey does nothing, excepting being "not bush"
As long as the Dems continue to run on "we're not them" they won't win national elections, or many local general ones.
VA Leftist - if you accept an apology and offer forgivenss, then why bringing up the issue over and over and over again shows neither acceptance or forgivness.
When you forgive someone, you acknowledge that they did wrong, but it was a mistake on their part. Harping on peoples acknowledged mistakes brings the political discourse to low sub-human levels which alienate hard working people.
I'm sure their are enough things you disagree with Allen on intelectually. If you believe in your ideas, lets agrue those and raise the level of political disagreement to rational human agruements.
That's very convenient...for the racists!
We judge people by their character and the way they treat others. And this is a fantastic issue for this campaign...which is ongoing. Why drop it?
Is it an issue? It was, up until the very moment Allen (or Webb) apologized.
We can accept Allen's apology and forgive him, but that doesn't mean we're sworn to silence about his actions, does it?
That's part of forgiveness, Paul...
Part of the Christian ethic, isn't it?
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